In this moderated conversation Dr. Greentree will reflect on the three pandemics he experienced while in the U.S. foreign service; the interplay between chaos and order in local, national, and global responses to pandemics; and how the novel coronavirus is busy infecting and likely forever changing international relations. Why did Secretary Pompeo recently threaten to cut aid to Afghanistan? Why is he engaging in a war of words with Iran — when that country has been devastated by coronavirus? Where is his clear statement of purpose of US global leadership on the pandemic?